Yes, I used the offensive word, “sucks.”
It is built to go really far down wind with driver and it is terrible in all other areas.
I never really complained about the ball before because I was having swing issues and not always striking the ball properly, so I didn’t want to blame my problems on a ball that plenty of players shot low with. I then heard Frank voice his displeasure and he made sense with what he told me.
Several weeks ago I played in a mild to intermediate wind and hit the irons as well as I had in a round in a long time.
On one hole I hit a low BB 3-iron into the wind that went 200 yards with a Taylor Made Lethal. A normal full high 3-iron goes 235-240. This ball looked like it came out of the air like it was a clay pigeon taken down by a 12 gauge.
I hit that exact shot on a Trackman with no wind a few weeks ago and it carried 230 and rolled to 245. Shallow AoA with lots of shaft lean.
The next par 3 it was 162 to hole into a stiffer wind. I hit a low bullet 6-iron and it looked like it got yanked by a string and came up short of pin high. With a ProV1 my 195-200 club went 155 frickin yards.
I remember Billy Mayfair telling Frank he goes vertical and swings harder into the wind to get more spin so it is more efficient and cuts trough wind better by staying in the air longer.
So I tried to hit 7-iron putting as much spin as I knew how. Ball was too high for this wind but went past the pin and 10 yards farther than flighted 6.
Now I was mad. I found and old yellow Titleist “Professional” from the 90’s on a range. It was old, yellow and a marshmallow. I hit the same 6-iron that went 155 with the new ProV1 and the old worn out “professional” went past the pin about 170.
These new balls are garbage, don’t spin enough and aren’t efficient for flighting balls in the wind…not working the ball either…because they don’t spin enough and the dimples aren’t deep enough.
Ask a ballistics expert what happens when a bullet that doesn’t spin enough gets shot into the wind.
I am no longer hitting knockdown shots and having to club up 2-3 clubs in a 1/2 club wind.
There is a huge rumor going around the Tour (and its not a small group of conspiracy theorists)…that Nike is making Tiger a ball that mirrors the performance of a Titleist from 10-15 years ago.
Wouldn’t be the first time. For several years he was using a Bridgestone Precept with a Nike swoosh on it and I heard that first hand from a Bridgestone exec. I once got one of his golf balls, matched it up with a Precept and sure enough…I wish I still had it.
Conspiracies aside…other than bombing a knuckle ball with driver down wind, these balls are horrid and you might as well use a Top Flight when chipping and putting.
They need to spin more, have deeper dimples and softer covers.
I told all of these things to a Golf Digest writer last week. they have an article coming out on the Precept Lady IQ. He was disappointed he didn’t know what I told him sooner. A few weeks after Frank was fed up with his ProV’s performance, I told him he should play a Precept Lady IQ.
At first he threw a few choice expletives at me…as he is prone to whenever he doesn’t agree with what I say or thinks I have lost my mind…which is often.
He loves the way it performs in the wind and on chipping and putting. It feels softer and the deeper dimple pattern makes the ball stay in the air longer.
In my opinion, The Precept Lady IQ is the best ball on the market if you don’t mind losing a few yards down wind with driver if you generate over 120 mph of driver speed. Into the wind, it goes 5-10 yards farther than a ProV1 or Taylor Made Lethal with an iron.
I told former commissioner Beman about all this and he was convinced. I dropped balls on a cart path and the Prov and Lethal clicked the same as a Top Flight and the same result happened when I juggled them on the face of an LW. He went out and bought some after our conversation.
In other words, why pay $45-$50 for a ball that doesn’t perform as well as a ball that you can buy at Walmart for $20…or sometimes on sale for $15.
(Disclaimer-None of this is scientific. It is based on my observations of myself and a two time PGA Tour winner.)