Golftec lessons

I have gotten many emails asking me about this.

Just like any other lessons in golf, Golftec lessons fall into one category.

If the instructor knows what he is doing, Golftec lessons are fine…even great. However, since most instructors in all of golf don’t know what they are doing, they can be awful because there is extra technical info that can be misused to an extreme.

I have a friend who works there and I have been there a few times in recent weeks. We look at the numbers, interpret what they are telling us and then work on a feel.

For example. My hip turn and shoulder tilt numbers were not in the green at impact. My hips weren’t clearing enough and my shoulders were compensating to keep the ball from going right and I would produce a pull hook. The same pull hook that cost me making it through US Open qualifying.

I felt my right shoulder turning under my chin a little better and all the numbers went in the green and the hooks went away.

That is the way all lessons should work. Gathering info and making ONE small adjustment.

Now if I could only start trusting this motion…I WOULD STOP HITTING PULLS AND HOOKS ON THE COURSE.

This is what happens when you hold the lag, your hands keep wanting to snatch the club. I am fighting 10-15 years of snatching the club with my hands. As soon as I get rid of that nonsense, I might be able to remove the “in” from infamous.

Educated hands, my white butt. I want some comatose hands.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  1. s.

    “…most instructors in all of golf don’t know what they are doing…” You got that right.

    “Comatose hands.” But, there seems to be something about the hands…your brain knows where they are, even if you can’t see them. I think it’s like a football quarterback. He’s not throwing the ball with his hands–but he does know how he wants his hands to feel during the release.

    I think that a forward pass or a golf swing consists of getting your hands to the release position, and letting them release…by other means.

    “Snatching it away”…I don’t know if this works, but Moe Norman did it, and apparently so does Stricker. Just before his takeaway, he pushes the clubhead away, so the ball is at the heel, with the driver anyway.

    I haven’t studied it, but it was on Golf Fix last night (I had it on only as background noise!!!). Maybe that takes out the slack in the arms, so that the body has to initiate the takeaway.

    Or, maybe not.

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  2. rojoass

    if you study the takeaway of the great ones in golf………..in 3D………the takeaway is completed BEFORE the turn really STARTS……..

    http://rojoass.com/

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    • woody

      That’s the thing about golf…can anyone really explain the swings of John Daly, or Chi Chi Rodriguez, or Jim Thorpe,or Furyk, or Rickie Fowler, or Doug Sanders, or Ryan Moore, or Arnold Palmer?

      Something not-so-good can be made to work, with enough compensations.

      And, how about those flippy putting strokes of the great ones? (But, their greens were more gnarly.)

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  3. SnowDale

    I did the GolfTec thing a few years ago. I bought a 10 lesson package ($600+), and there were some good things, and bad things.
    Good things: I do like that you can see numerically how you are doing compared to their model. I do like some of the drills they give you.

    Bad things: I felt the approach was somewhat canned. “Here’s one thing I see wrong in your swing, so here are 3 drills that will help with that problem. See you in 3 weeks.” Towards the end, I was controlling what we worked on, and that worked better. I did a short game lesson (counts as 2 lessons) and that was wonderful. I learned how to hit flop shots, and then use the same motion out of the sand. The putting lesson was not very good. They strap the measuring devices to you and the putter, and I just didn’t get a whole lot of feedback. Maybe it’s because I already had a decent stroke. I also had to take those 10 lessons in 6 months, and I didn’t make it so I lost a couple lessons on my package. 🙁

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  4. meateater

    Monte, what do you mean by “snatch the club” with your hands? Is it actively trying to yank the grip end with your left hand as you approach impact or something else?

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    • Mike from Canada

      Dude, don’t worry about it. Snatching the club is not something anyone should force themselves to do. It is gimmicky and not natural. You’ll shave more strokes by praticing your chipping and putting than snatching the club.

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    • woody

      I think “snatch the club” refers to active hands in the takeaway. Not generally thought of as a good thing.

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    • Monte Scheinblum

      Snatching the club is from the top. It’s what happen when you try to create lag, or if the club is behind you…or if you have too much right hand grip pressure…it’s all bad.

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      • meateater

        So it’s about the transition. I actually think that would be a great subject for you to write more about. It seems to me that the average pro is able to generate considerable speed from the top to about halfway down, while the average hacker has generated basically nothing. Of course the pro is also accelerating through impact while the hacker is stalling and flipping.

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  5. tom

    I really enjoy your critique of instruction “methods” and hope to see more of them. Especially would like to hear what you think about the golfing machine, “slicefixer” on golfwrx, rotary swing golf, the Graves brothers, Manuel de la Torre, Ernest Jones, etc.

    Based on his reputation I thought that i had finally found a good instructor within reasonable distance of where i live. First lesson all he preached was “take it back way inside then swing to right field.” It has been nothing but big pushes and pull hooks since. Should i go back for more or run very far away?

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  6. wally

    Monte
    Yesterday my wife and I had lunch at Sam Sneads’ in Sarasota FL. Great Ruben sandwich. What would Sam say about all this

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    • meateater

      I’m pretty sure he would be amused by how much study his swing gets. Not that it doesn’t deserve to be studied.

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