No Tiger in the US Open

The claim is that he is injured and I am not discounting the injury(s). I am sure it hurts and is affecting him.

However, I seem to remember a one legged, bad kneed Tiger winning the US Open at Torrey Pines…but that was a different Tiger. That Tiger was confident, had a great short game and was not in the middle of a drastic swing change.

I was critical of the swing he had at the time, but his short game was so good and his confidence in himself was so high, it over came any swing faults he had.

Tiger’s short game is a victim of neglect because he is so into working on his swing (which stinks, injury or no).

I know from experience what swing confusion and a practice deprived short game gets you. Golf scores far worse than your skill level.

All of you Foley fans can give me all the grief you want. If I were hired to wreck Tiger’s career, I would think of a swing that would have mechanics the are bad for someone who had a history of getting stuck. I would also add in something that would put extra pressure on his bad knee.

Using those parameters, I would have come up with exactly the swing Tiger has been using.

I don’t think Tiger is missing the Open because he can’t play golf…I think he is missing the US Open because he can’t play the golf he finds acceptable. Actually, judging by his performance that The Players, he is playing golf not acceptable to a 4 handicap and I stand by my prediction. Foley will be gone before the PGA.

Obviously Foley is trying to help Tiger and he has helped other players. I just don’t like his ideas and I certainly think what he is teaching Tiger is ass backward from what Tiger needs.

Get out the rotten fruit and vegetables and fling away.

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  1. Calvin D

    I have concluded that Tiger is pretty much done. His greatest asset according to his Dad is mental toughness and that characteristic has devolved into a shambles of self doubt and confusion.

    I don’t see him making any more of a comeback than Duval has.

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  2. rojoass

    Fantastic Monte. Agree completely. Foley is a Swingcrack dealer. Tiger bought into it. Harmon is still giggling.

    Tiger is toast.

    And I have somebody on record from this forum making some wild-A$$ predictions earlier this season on how much he was gonna win…………..

    not !

    http://rojoass.com/

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  3. Wally

    Tiger should listen to Bubba Watson

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  4. Mike from Canada

    If I could throw a rotten tomato at you over the internet I would. Monte you are so damned conceited sometimes. You think you have all the answers. You say you believe Tigers injured but then go onto say you really think he is missing because he isn’t playing well…. and, of course, that’s Foley’s fault.

    Tiger has had FOUR surgeries on that knee!! The guys body is wrecked at 35 do to years of abuse. AND I’m not talking about swing abuse. Tiger is addicted to working out. Running is the worst thing you can do for your joints and Tiger didn’t stop until recently.

    How much do you think Tiger’s been able to practice lately?!? Likely none!! Yet again, it’s all Foley’s fault.

    But Monte, you will continue to think you have all the answers and judge other peoples decisions becuase guys like Rojass and Wally will keep coming to this site to suck on your balls after everything you say. Keep scukin’ boys!

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    • Brett Picotte

      I’ve been running for 30+ years, and it’s kept me in great shape. I only buy the best in running shoes, and the only time I’ve had a problem with my knees is when I injured one practicing Jiu-Jitsu. Running helped me rehab my knee, and it’s helped my wife get back in shape Just my 2 cents.

      And, joint locks are the worst thing you can do to your joints.

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    • Monte Scheinblum

      I am neither conceited, nor do I think I have all the answers. I have an opinion and that opinion is this…and I stated it in today’s post.

      1. Foley has helped other people.

      2. I don’t think his philosophies are good for Tiger. Especially an injured Tiger.

      I don’t understand why you enjoy the blog every other day, yet on the days I criticize Foley you go into a Jekyll and Hyde PMS like tirade. You attack me and other posters who agree with me and get personal.

      Either you are Foley’s brother or Sean Foley himself. Doesn’t matter if that’s true, or if you are just someone who had success with his method. My opinion’s are not going to bring him down and you need to switch to decaff if you are going to continue to read my blog.

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      • meateater

        Monte, I have a serious question for you, and it’s based on the Stricker piece you did the other day. Would it be remotely possible for Tiger to take a deep breath, realize he’s not a long hitter any more but still has the game to win majors? In other words, start playing more like Stricker, at least off the tee. He could do that with an easy, relaxed swing. Less stress on his body, less stress on his mind from wild shots, just a lot of fairways and greens. I’ve felt like a lot of Tiger’s issues the last few years came from trying to hit it too far. The really long guys don’t tend to look like they’re overhitting. Tiger did. If he were a Nationwide player and hooked up with a bigtime coach, the first thing they would have told him is dial it back a little kid. But he was Tiger and it seemed he had trouble accepting that other guys were longer.

        Maybe this whole thing will be a wakeup call to him, and he can produce an Act II. Plenty of golfers didn’t really come into their own until they were his age or even older.

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      • Monte Scheinblum

        meat…I agree that would resurrect his career, but I am not sure his ego will allow it.

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      • Mike from Canada

        Monte, I am a Tiger fan and I want to see him do well. My problem is you THINK you have all the answers and know what Tiger should do, even though you admitidly have f’ed up your own golf game. You are so damn sure about yourself that it makes me mad. You are no different than Foley, Haney, etc. You think you have the answers and that most of the other guys are wrong.

        My issue is that you are using Tiger’s injury to further your point. You want Tiger to be shitty so that you have been right all along. Your bias is quite apparent.

        I have an opinion too… Tiger was the greatest golfer to ever play the game and knows a shit load more than you about the game and the swing.

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      • Mike from Canada

        Oh, and I singled out Rojass and Wally becuase they are like “yes” men. They come on here virtually everyday and agree with everything you say.

        When I don’t agree I usually don’t post anything, but Tiger not playing is a sad day for golf because we are all being cheated out of seeing what Tiger could do because his body has basically given out on him. This would have been something good to write about today, but you chose to take an injury and turn it into an article which backs your opinion that Tiger is going down the wrong path with his swing. THIS ISN’T ABOUT HIS SWING!! THE MAN IS INJURED!!

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      • Monte Scheinblum

        Mike….

        I do not want Tiger to be shitty. My feelings about him personally don’t change the fact that I enjoy watching him play and he is good for the game. I say that all the time.

        I f’d up my game the same way Tiger is f-ing his up….that’s how I know he is f-ing it up…because he is on the same path.

        Just like someone who cheated on his wife with multiple women would have seen that Tiger was going to mess up his marriage.

        Tiger’s path is that obvious to me.

        Tiger knows a load more than me about how to play the game, but I believe i know more than him about the swing.

        …and again, you get personal.

        …and I still say you need some decaff.

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      • Mike from Canada

        I don’t see how I’m getting personal.

        I can’t believe that you think you know more than Tiger about the swing. You don’t know Tiger and I don’t see you coaching guys to the top. What makes you so sure about yourself and so absolutely sure that you know what Tiger should do?

        Just because you f’ed up you swing doesn’t mean you have the knowledge to say when someone else is f’ing up.

        And Monte, did you really screw up your swing? Maybe you did when you were younger but is it really still messed up? Monte, you may have just gotten older and not as good. I don’t believe someone can screw up their swing for many many years. Usually there is a physical reason a person can’t get back to where they were. You likely have a physical limitation.

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      • Mike from Canada

        Oh, and you may say you don’t want Tiger to be shitty because that is the politically correct thing to say, but I really really doubt it. I think on a subcontious level you want to be right and you can’t be right if Tiger plays well.

        It’s human nature to want to be correct.

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      • Monte Scheinblum

        Mike, the only thing you are right about is it is human nature to want to be correct…and that I f’d up my swing.

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      • Mike from Canada

        ………….In your opinion.

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  5. s.

    You write, “I don’t think Tiger is missing the Open because he can’t play golf…I think he is missing the US Open because he can’t play the golf he finds acceptable. ”

    No rotten tomato from me…instead, agreement. At least, Tiger should have faked some kind of injury when he was climbing those steps and hopping into his Mercedes.

    I wouldn’t let Butch off too easily. I remember an article in a golf magazine (credited to Butch), in which he extolled Tiger’s post-up of the left leg–rather than having it somewhat bent through impact…and straightening later.

    Tiger’s working with a guru who stresses keeping weight on the left side would seem to inhibit the shock-absorbing qualities of his left leg.

    Rocco doesn’t seem to post-up too early. Maybe Tiger needs a Swing Jacket?

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  6. FredL

    well…there’s a lot of devices and DVDs in the golf stores to help you with golf, maybe Tiger should try each and every one of those! lol. Seriously, perhaps he needs to stop with the instruction and “find” himself again.

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  7. Mike

    I feel Tiger is an incredibly loyal guy and therefore will give more time to Foley than only the PGA. He stuck with Hank even though there were certain signs that he was starting to swing like O’Meara. So in that sense I think you are wrong, whether or not this is the right swing for him is tough to say now. Under Butch he had one of the great swings of all time, but that era is over and trying to make him go back….well that time has past.

    I think the solution is far simpler than where his left leg or right elbow is in the swing, he needs to find that loving feeling again. The love of the game and how much he enjoyed playing golf. It is way too much like a business now for him. If you could show him that, than I agree you could fix him.

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    • Calvin D

      Pffffffffft. “Incredibly loyal guy”? Your kidding right?

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      • Mike

        I could provide numerous points of Tiger’s loyalty. I already provided the Haney example, he was so loyal to Hank that eventually Hank had to leave him. Now this recent episode with his agent and how he is sticking with him. His childhood friend is the CEO of his foundation. Tiger would play in the Byron Nelson until Mr. Nelson’s passing even though he hated the course, it was eventually the course that broke his cut streak.

        I could provide more. I would like to hear how you think he is not loyal, other than the situation with his wife. Sadly I don’t have an explanation for that. Other than to say that he was thinking with the wrong head.

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      • Calvin D

        Mike, I should know better than to argue with hero worship; True believers do not generally respond to logic.

        But, Fluff to the curb, Butch to the curb, Hank to the curb, wife to the curb, numerous amorous girls to the curb. Add in a lukewarm attitude about representing his country in the Ryder Cup. Add in a standoffish attitude with fans. In his defense he gives a great interview. Plus he was a great golfer.

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      • Mike

        Haha, hero worship, hardly. I am no Tiger fan. I am a different Mike than above. But I do think he is getting a bum steer from haters right now.

        Fluff to the curb, well he is the first guy ever to fire a caddy, and to be fair he has been with Stevie for longer than most caddie/player relationships. Hank to the curb, what, seems you got that story mixed up.

        You are right about the interviews. He is an jerk in most of them. But that is not related to his loyalty, that is just you trying to take a shot when a guy is down.

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  8. Bob

    If you want to stir up any golf blog or forum just bring up Tiger. Good or bad it leads to interesting reading. Cheers all.

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  9. ray Ben

    Monty
    Have you ever read any of Abe Mitchell’s instruction books. At a guess I would say that you haven’t because if you had you would know what Tiger is trying to achieve with Foley’s help. All those players who keep the clubface looking at the ball during the takeaway and get their right forearm behind the elbow and lock the wrists in the backswing are followers of Abe Mitchell’s swing method. Let me think who did this – maybe Ben Hogan, Arnold Palmer, Matt Kuchar ( newbee to the method), Grant Waiite to name a few. Do some research Monty …you may learn something.

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    • Monte Scheinblum

      and Charlie Wi…which is where Foley got the idea from. I do plenty of research Mr. Condescension.

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  10. kbp

    “Monte you are so damned conceited sometimes.”
    “You think you have all the answers.”
    “You are so damn sure about yourself ….”
    “You are no different than…”
    “You want Tiger to be shitty…”

    “I don’t see how I’m getting personal.”

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  11. mship99

    Monte – When you say you “remember a one legged, bad kneed Tiger winning the US Open at Torrey Pines…but that was a different Tiger” that was a different Tiger but this is also a different injury. In ’08 he couldn’t make the injury any worse but now he can. He can shut it down and heal without having surgery or he can go try and play hurt, not make the cut, and then have to have another knee rebuilt. The only thing I disagree with wrt your opinion is that you are basically calling a 14 time major champion a quitter. The fact that he has gone out there with a broken leg should tell you that if he could…he would period. Oh and the guy from Canada…I think he is sticking up for Foley…hometown boy.

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    • Monte Scheinblum

      I wasn’t calling out Tiger. I was calling out Tiger’s confidence in his swing. He is the farthest thing from a quitter.

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      • Mike from Canada

        You’re right… I am sticking up for Foley but I’m also sticking up for Tiger.

        mship99 – I agree with everything in your post.

        Monte, you say you aren’t calling Tiger a quitter but you are saying in your post that Tiger isn’t playing because he isn’t confident in his swing, not because he’s injured… that’s pretty much the definition of a quitter.

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        • Monte Scheinblum

          You must make someone a really good wife because you can take something someone says and read their minds as to what they “really” think.

          From now on, I will be happy to answer any questions you have about playing golf and the swing, but this is the last time I respond to one of these posts.

          I used the Open at Torrey as an example of how Tiger is tough and will pretty much play under any circumstances…even with a bad injury.

          The fact he is not playing in this Open leads me to believe he is not happy with his swing and game in general and does not want a repeat of The Players. I think he is the opposite of a quitter and that is my evidence that he is really not happy with his game.

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