The difference between diving and adding tilt

I have gotten a lot of emails about my comments about Tiger diving at the ball while not making the same comments about others who drop their heads.

This brings me to a concept that can be very important to some golfers. Especially those who get their upper body in front of the ball.

When Tiger’s head drops, he is compacting his body…and not always the same way.

Many bad golfers dive at the ball with their upper body by adding bend at the waist, some curve their spines more, while others increase the bend in their knees.

These kinds of movements that create a lower head at impact, are generally going to create situations that make it more difficult to hit the ball.

When you you make a proper weight shift to the front side and either maintain your tilt behind the ball, or add a little bit through impact, this will lower the head slightly and this is not a bad situation.

Maintaining or adding a slight amount of spine tilt behind the ball makes room for your lower body to turn and your arms and club head to get out in front of your body.

That is also the key to making a weight shift to the front side, while not getting the upper body in front of the ball.

Maintaining, or even adding a little bit of spine tilt behind the ball is a good thing…and I also don’t want to minimize having enough tilt behind the ball at address. The latter is a HUGE problem among mid to high handicappers, while not maintaining tilt is very common among single digit handicaps.




  1. rojoass

    Spot on.
    The trick is finding a feel that allows rotation through the swing without getting the upper body ahead or the tilt hanging on the rear foot. Both are bad. I find both are usually eliminated when not thought about “during” the swing.

  2. Calvin

    Tilt is good. More is not better. 🙂

    • Monte Scheinblum

      More is better for most people…as most people do not have the right amount.

      • north

        How do you tell if you have the right amount?

      • Monte Scheinblum

        north. It’s a little bit of a trial an error process. Your balance will usually tell you what’s right.

  3. s.

    What if the tilt was the result of swinging against a firm left side (as Nicklaus said), playing into his leg (as Moe Norman said), or some other way of describing the resistance?

    Then, the act of turning and swinging forward against resistance would cause the body to tilt back.

    Kind of an Isaac Newton type of thing, action-reaction, and all that.

    If that were true, then the tilt would provide itself (unless faulty mechanics were being implemented), and someone wouldn’t have to micromanage it.

  4. Bob

    Can the head and arms be key to the tilt? Each has “weight” and is moving … the arms forward the the head back to maintain balance/counter balance. Kind of like “S” posted.

  5. Bob Saunders


    Do a lot of chop swings get an “over the top” flavor because of lack of tilt? I can visualize with enough tilt, moving the pelivs left is fine. Without enough tilt, a similar move would immediately create an over the top look, as the right shoulder reacts.

    Does this make sense? Thanks,

    • Monte Scheinblum

      Yes, that makes some sense.

      Generally speaking, OTT almost always has a root cause in a backswing that is too far inside.


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