More on the subject of wedge distances

After reading a few of the comments and several emails, I learned a couple of things.

The wedge distance problem is an epidemic and I learned why.

Most golfers don’t know what a full swing is and they think 80% of a full swing with driver is the same as an 80% of a full swing with a wedge.

For the sake of explanation, I am going to break a “full swing” into two components. Length of back swing and how hard you swing.

A 100% back swing is how long of a takeaway is produced when you make a good shoulder turn and your back swing stops at the end of your shoulder turn.

I have developed a formula and guide for all of you to re-access your methods.

Length of back swing = LBS

How hard you swing = HHS

Now, here is where you all get in trouble. You only factor in HHS and almost none of you factor in LBS.

One poster yesterday claimed he only made 80% swings with all of his clubs and that was his evidence he didn’t hit his wedges too far. However, that 80% was only factoring in HHS.

There is going to be some circular talk here, but if you follow me and reread some of my mumbo jumbo, you will get the point.

Here is what happens to most people with driver. Their LBS is 120% and that doesn’t allow them to make a good solid 80-90% HHS because they have over done their back swing with the arm swing and they end up only being able to put 60-70% HHS and hit their driver short and crooked.

Then with the wedge, they make 100% LBS and that allows them a full 80% HHS, which to them is not a full swing, and they end up nuking their wedges relative to their drivers and other longer clubs.

Now you understand why amateurs feel like they hit all clubs the same distance. The shorter the club, the less they are over running their shoulder turn with arm swing and the better ability they have to accelerate the club.

So in actuality, someone who thinks they are putting an 80% swing on everything, is actually getting only about 60% out of their driver and 100% out of their wedge, when they should be getting 100% out of their driver and 60-70% out of their wedge.

If you take my normal yardage with driver, I probably have another 20 yards in reserve if I absolutely go after it. If you figure a 300+ yard driver, that is about 7% in reserve. With a wedge, the difference between how far I would hit a “full” wedge under normal circumstances and how far I could hit it if I killed it…is about 30-40 yards. That is 20+ % in reserve. So you see, my full wedge is far lower than my max, than my driver is.

Hope I haven’t lost too many of you with my theory, but the following will make it clear.

A good solid, full driver swing should have 100% LBS and 90% HHS.

A good solid, full wedge swing should be about 80% LBS and 70% HHS.

To sum it all up, shorten your swing with everything, hit your driver harder and your wedges not as hard.

You will hit the ball farther with driver (and the other longer clubs) and be able to control distance, spin and trajectory better with the shorter irons and wedges.




  1. WUZ

    This theory you’ve generated deserves serious consideration and thought. Whether you’re right or wrong, the mental part of golf is both entertaining and at least as important as the physical side.


  2. Wally

    This sounds like a thesis for a doctorate in physics, cut it out

    • Monte Scheinblum

      Wally, I did it for a reason. Will explain why on Tuesday.

  3. s.

    Devil’s Advocate:

    People like Jack Nicklaus and Moe Norman said that they used the same effort and swing for every full swing. Obviously, that’s an oversimplification.

    But, maybe it should be more true, than not…as far as keeping things simple.

    Since gurus don’t tell people where speed comes from, when they try to swing hard, they use the wrong technique and hit shorter. Kinda like David Feherty said:

  4. Calvin D

    Dave Pelz would love that.


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