More on right and left arm rotation

Let’s look at two common basic misses. The pull slice and snap hook.

Here is where understanding the new ball flight laws and how shaft angle affects things is so helpful.

Explaining things in detail will get too wordy and read like a chapter from The Golf Machine. I am going to give a basic explanation (that is still fairly complex), then make a video that I will post tomorrow that makes it more clear.

Basically a pull slice is the club face aimed left of the target and the path waaaaaaay left of the target. These are the result of an over the top move and a really steep shaft.

The way to improve this is the get the right arm rotating under and into the body. That shallows the shaft, brings the path and club face more toward the target line.

Devil’s advocate would say this move is going to open the club more and make it slice more. The answer is it makes the club face and path match better, which makes the ball go straighter.

And since a pull slice the face is aimed left…wouldn’t we want the club pointing more right to hit it straight?


Good, that means I still have a job.

The same works for the big hook. Path too far from the inside (shaft too shallow) and face open to that path. The body recognizes this, hips stall, hands flip…snap hook.

Rotating the left arm over and into the body steepens the shaft and rotates the club closed onto the path and more out in front of your turn, bringing the path more left.

So if you are scratching your head and saying….”Wait, wait , wait. Did this fool just say open the face and swing more right to stop a slice and close the face and swing more left to stop a hook?”

Guess what? 5 years ago I would have thought this was insanity and the person writing it was a moron.

I promise you it’s true and if you are ridiculously confused, the video will help and many of you are on the cusp of a journey that will reduce and maybe even eliminate your hooks and slices.




  1. Christian

    I definitely agree that opening the face and swinging more right is going to fix the pull slice. But… I think you have to be really careful with that thought. My theory is that this whole miss is a result of the body’s reaction to a clubface that is open to path. Things start slicing and going right so your body wants to steer it left and ends up going over the top to do that. For me, at least, it seems like clubface and path are relatively constant with a given swing. So going over the top turns into a pull slice vs. a straight or push slice. So now the ball at least starts left and ends up in the fairway some of the time (but way short). Trying to fix the path brings back the push slice because the path and the face both shift right about the same amount.

    The swing thought (that you posted last year at some point) of rolling my left arm down my chest during my downswing has finally gotten the clubface square or a little closed to my swing path. Once that happened my swing path is gradually fixing itself because now stuff is going straight or into the left woods and I’m losing my fear of the big right miss.

    I’ll be interested to see the video. I can’t really picture rotating my right arm under without seeing a massive push slice right.

  2. woody

    ” 5 years ago I would have thought this was insanity and the person writing it was a moron.”

    Sooo…you’re the one with the world-class coordination, you’re the one with a launch monitor, you’re the one with experience at teaching…

    Inquiring minds want to know if it is really possible to adjust path…when you also say that after the transition the swing is done.

    Can you adjust path without throwing yourself off-balance? If you scoop up a ball at shortstop, will your throw to 1st base be more accurate if you try to micromanage the path of your hand or arm?

    I’m not a fan of Natural Golf, but I think Todd Graves has a point: the fix for all faults is the same–do the right thing.

    I’m eagerly awaiting info on how to hit it loooooong.

  3. Ken

    Does this work for a block also?


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