I will say it again…

Hip speed, does not equal club speed.

…and Rory has a hip stall for a reason…and it’s not because it’s some mystery power inducing move. They are waiting for his arms.

I am really tired of the golf media proposing anomalies are the reason for greatness…and not greatness is resulting in spite of the anomaly.

Nicklaus’ head tilt and left heel lift.
Tiger snapping left knee and power squat
Dustin Johnson’s bowed left wrist
Rory’s hip stall

If I would have made the tour in the early or mid 90’s, there is a 100% chance there would have been a big to do about my right knee straightening coming into and thru impact. It wasn’t the reason I hit it long, it was a compensation I had to have to create room so I could avoid whiffing the ball.

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  1. Michael C.

    It looks to me like your right foot moved in a slight clockwise direction then turned up onto your toes. I seen a drill about turning your trail foot like that to improve something or another.

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  2. Jake G

    And here I’ve been secretly trying to “steal” that power secret ever since I shot the slow-mo video at TME. I figured if it worked for the longest in the world at one time….why not me 😉 Good stuff buddy

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  3. Roy

    Monte, you say that their greatness (Rory, Jack, Tiger, Justin) is “in spite of the anomaly”, as if there were something wrong with the anomaly… I guess, you, as a teaching pro, have to try to fit everyone into some “cookie-cutter” swing or formula, but what about Ray Floyd, Freddie Couples, Nancy Lopez, Lee Trevino, Jim Furyk and on and on? If you had had these golfers as youngsters, I can imagine you would have had them change their back swings because their hands were either to far inside or outside.

    What they have in common is that their club heads are on plane as the get to the “delivery” position. That is much more important than where golfers happen to be on their back swings.

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    • Monte Scheinblum

      This is about the third time you have missed the point in your responses. You have never been there for a lesson.I would have done nothing of the sort. I am the opposite of a cookie cutter instructor. My advice to you, stop trolling, or improve your reading comprehension.

      The fact you used the term “on plane” proves you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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      • Roy

        Not a troll. In fact, I purchased a 5 video lesson package from you. I suppose the point was that the media think that their anomalies are what make them great and that that is incorrect. I agree. Their anomalies make them recognizable from a distance maybe – that’s all. I’d recognize Couples from 200 yards. What is important is – they are all doing the same near impact.

        I guess what’s bugging me is that golf instruction isn’t working, for the most part. Golf handicaps haven’t improved in decades. Dismiss me as a troll, if you wish…

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        • Michael C.

          Handicaps not improving doesn’t fall on anyone but the golfer.

          I have a book about Michael Jordon. I have an instruction book about basketball and watched the movie ‘Space Jam’. Guess what? I suck at basketball.

          There are 2 types of scratch golfers.

          1. The people who break 80 in their first year of playing, then put the work in.

          2. The people who can’t break a hundred their first year of playing. They practice and/or take lessons and practice. THEN, THEY PUT THE WORK IN!

          Anomalies are a part of golf. We all have different builds, strength, and flexibility. WE, also, have different learning capabilities. No 15 handicap is going to take a $200 lesson/read a book/watch a DVD and Monday qualify for the next pro tournament.

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        • Jake G

          “I guess, you, as a teaching pro, have to try to fit everyone into some “cookie-cutter” swing or formula”

          Roy, you obviously have no clue how Monte teaches as this is as far from incorrect as you could get. Monte’s philosophy is simple…….btw, this is straight off of this webpage and I quote

          TEACHING PHILOSOPHY
          Since all golfers have individual anatomies and skills, no one swing pattern is going to work for everyone. I prefer to eliminate the “tipping point flaw” that leads to several other flaws and reduce swing thoughts to a minimum…hopefully one.
          The setup, takeaway and transition have to match. Anything that happens after that, including impact, is a result of a the aforementioned three things and how well they match

          Sounds pretty damn good to me? I have seen Monte several times in person, and I can assure you that he is anything but cookie cutter. Next time get your facts straight before you attack a guy that is so generous with his time and swing knowledge

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        • Joey

          i will agree whole heartedly with this post from Roy. Golf instruction is certainly failing. As a person who has taken dozens of lessons and practiced 3-5 days a week for stretches of years I can solidly say that no lesson has ever helped me drop my handicap. It just hasn’t. I wish I could say differently.

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          • Parmark

            Just a suggestion. You might consider either in person or online lessons from Monte. He helped me a great deal, and a whole lot of other folks.

  4. Andrew Tyler

    But damn it, I read it in a golf magazine. They can’t lie in golf magazines. I’m also dating a French model.

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    • Andrew in Belgium

      Is the French model a Citroen or a Renault??

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  5. Don LIssen

    Here’s some “hip science” for you:

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100907071427.htm

    But, I doubt if it will help anyone because it doesn’t tell you what to DO. Science can’t replace a good guru, right?

    Like Sam Snead said, “It all has to work together.” That’s what gurus are for.

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    • Michael C.

      Don,

      Did you notice how they identified the ‘X’ factor in the beginning. (I believe Jim Mclean has modified his thinking a little since his article about the X factor first came out). Then, spoke only of the hips and not the shoulders in their conclusions on the data.

      Things that make you go hmmm….

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  6. Dan

    This is very interesting, I have been watching some slow motion ML Baseball swings and I noticed that they have very little hip to shoulder separation and their aim is to hit the ball as far as possible (in most cases) in fact this particular video was the MLB home run highlights so all these swings did in fact produce big hits. This is interesting because all the garbage I had fed to me over these last few years from golf mags and the like all say lead with the hips, passive arms, X factor all this I beleive has led me to a swing that left me hands/arms way behind and too high causing massive issues as you can imagine, thankfully I found Monte’s YouTube channel and website……..

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    • Dan

      “Believe” even…..^

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  7. jean dufour

    I’m not sure hip stall is such an anomaly.I have noticed it on a video of Monte’s swing too.Hips turn about 45° backwards and 90° forewards,about mid way they probably have provided the maximum speed they can deliver to the shoulders,the shoulders,which turn much faster then take the relay. But turning the shoulders apply exactly the opposite torque on your hips which therefore slow down to the point of eventually stalling until the shoulders are aligned with them,which happens just after impact. Then everything turns by mere inertia.Hips slowing down or even stalling is probably the indication of a very efficient sequencing of the efforts of the lower body and then of the upper body.

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  8. Don Lissen

    “Hips slowing down or even stalling is probably the indication of a very efficient sequencing of the efforts of the lower body and then of the upper body.”

    –So that seems to get you to what Moe Norman said, “I don’t play OVER my leg, I play INTO my leg.”

    It doesn’t mean that the left leg (for righties) has no other function than to prevent tipping over down-the-line. (For people who like secondary tilt, I don’t know how else you’d get it.)

    Moe also said, “I’m not spinning.” I think he meant that he wasn’t trying to spin his hips.

    Part of the problem with talking about “hips” is that they’re just an indicator, and the action originates from lower than the top of the pelvic bone–which we call “hips.”

    http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/Pelvis.jpg

    DISCLAIMER: I am not endorsing any website that I use as a source for photos.

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