Forcing yourself to hit a draw is a waste of time, energy, effort…

…and golf balls.

Don’t get me wrong, if you make a natural swing and the ball turns over…awesome. Enjoy it and be the envy of all your friends.

Right now I am inundated with online and real life students who got obsessed with the draw and I am having to assist them with unmanageable swing paths and major swing faults that were the result of forcing the club inside out.

A well hit fade DOES NOT go shorter than a well hit draw.

The fact that a hook goes farther than a slice has no relevance.

I’ll let you in on a little secret. When I competed in long drive, I most often hit a fade. My winning drive was a fade.

I will leave you with two rhetorical questions. Which swing pattern will allow you to continue to speed up your acceleration? Which one is easier to execute for golfers who don’t have 20 hours a week to practice?

1. A club path where you are slightly out to in and you will be able to rotate harder to keep the club from rotating too much so it will remain slightly open and hit a fade.

2. A club that is underneath the plane (too far from the inside) and your body needs to stall and flip the hands in order to keep it from going way right and will more often turn into a hook than a perfectly timed draw?

Bonus Rhetorical Question #3

3. What type of shot did the two greatest major winners of all time play when they were the most dominant?

Bonus Rhetorical question #4

4. What type of shot is the writer of this blog finding easier to control right now?




  1. Jason

    I agree with it all. I would even take that a step further and say it’s exactly the same swing, it’s ball position relative to the arc of the club that dictates the ball flight more than anything.

  2. Calvin

    I wish you would go into this a little bit deeper. I don’t have a predominant ball flight. Sometimes it’s straight, sometimes draws, sometimes fades. Is it ball position? Mr. Miller says if you play the ball back and hit it with right palm down it has no choice but to draw; when I do that I hit squirrels. 🙂

    • Monte Scheinblum

      Mr. Miller’s comment of pulling the butt of the club into a wall in front of you is responsible for more people quitting golf than the economy.

      • 4theloveofthegame

        Preceded to the same effect by Jim Flip, Eddie and Manolo della Handsy and Armsy, Peter Inside-Out Hooksis, Jim X-Factor McSway, Jimmy Connection Boll&%)/, David CheckeverypositioninthemirrorSirNick Shankworse,
        Jim Changeyournaturalintoanunnaturalswingatanyprice Softie, the IntentionalReversePivotAdvocates and soon probably to be followed by the CanadianSquatters, the TransitionManipulatorsandArtificialLagHolders, the ToeJumpers(watch this space!) and since a long time of course the IncomprehensiblesfromTGMandBallFlightLalaLand- sorry for the rant, been a victim of almost all of them.

  3. Wally

    Monte you have out done your self again. Many moons ago I was told that with my skinny wrists I will always have a slight Fade with my longer clubs. I have been splitting fairways with it for 35 years. Some things are best when left alone

    • 4theloveofthegame

      Lucky and smart you. One of my earliest teachers turned us all into drawers after I showed him the original PK inside-out GD article- this was way before the Internet and obviously not in the US…Our best player turned into a 6HCP from scratch, until he reversed course again on his own, going back to scratch.
      Us others were not so strong, neither in play nor in character….
      BTW, that teacher went on to coach a recent Major winner, being awarded teacher of the year many times over- and he duly changed this Major winning pupil’s swing from his natural fade to a draw again after his win, since then we’re waiting….
      Guess/propose he should see Monte!

  4. Robert Johansson

    I hit a draw as my natural shot.
    Hitting a fade for me is one yard or so with irons.
    I assume most think distance is key and important instead of accuracy and consistency.

    Longer clubs tends to be fades for me, as long they go in the fairway I dont care 😉

  5. Christian

    I hit fades. Sometimes it is a stretch to call it a fade, though :-). I can definitely see the mentality of wanting to hit draws. It’s the opposite of the problem I currently have (big wipes) – kind of like wanting to hold the lag to get rid of a cast. It doesn’t really work but makes sense to the golf addled mind. That all being said, I am just as happy to see a well hit slight fade as a draw.

  6. BernardP

    As Lee Trevino said: “You can talk to a slice, but a hook won’t listen”

    At my club, there are all these older, slow-swing-speed players, trying to play a low draw, because “it has more roll”. So they buy 9 degree drivers.

    What they don’t consider is the lack of height of their shots, costing them distance, and the fact that balls stop quickly after landing on our well-watered course.

  7. The Original Brian

    No shot makes me cringe more on the range than a weak swipe.

    A fade is a great shot to hit if you can still “compress” the ball (I hate that term too, but there really is a different sensation at impact when stirking the ball well).

    There is nothing wrong with hitting a fade but when people say “I’m hitting the fade now” it usually means they screwed up something mechanically and cannot manage to square the club face to save their lives and thus that is their new shot.

  8. Mike Z

    My dad watches the Hank Haney shows on the golf channel (for entertainment purposes only) and reports that this week, Hank was forcing his poor students to hit a draw by flipping the club with their hands and wrists. A guy snap-hooked it 50 yards into the trees and Hank thought that was great progress.

    Like you say, play whatever shot comes naturally (which may change from day to day). It worked for Jack and Tiger.

    • Monte Scheinblum

      That’s like saying hold your breath to stop coughing.

  9. The Original Brian

    I have a question somewhat related to this: I know you hate the term ‘holding the lag’, but what would you suggest for a good drill/feeling to have to increase forward shaft lean at impact?

    I’m hitting spinny shots with my irons and I’m having difficultly with keeping the upper body back whilst flighting the ball properly.

    Thanks as always Monte!

  10. spanky

    My natural flight is straight (something I’ve worked from the go). Decided I should learn to work the ball and after a good amount of time and effort I can now move the ball both ways, small or large. I always fancied the draw shape, but now actually find I love to hit a mid-low smallish fade (punch fade I suppose) lovely flight!

    Posted by The Original Brian on April 25, 2012 at 8:40 am

    “No shot makes me cringe more on the range than a weak swipe.

    A fade is a great shot to hit if you can still “compress” the ball (I hate that term too, but there really is a different sensation at impact when stirking the ball well).”

    Yeh that “compression” feeling in a slight fade shot is a feeling I really enjoy.

    Funny but I actually find it easier and more enjoyable to shape the ball, than to hit it straight, don’t seem to have to worry about positions etc, its all about setup, and release feel through the ball. Very strange, I never classed myself as a feel player, but after learning to work the ball, all I want to be is a feel player!

  11. David

    Didn’t that Hogan chappie once say that a normal properly-struck shot will be a very slight draw because the path will always be slightly from the inside …. ? Of course he was a fader too wasn’t he ?

  12. Jabrch (Jason)

    Love this Monte….I tried for a while to draw the ball…finally realized I was better off just hitting the damn thing straight.

  13. 4theloveofthegame

    As you stated before, I think, Peter – Inside Out- K. screwed up a lot of people’s games who grew up with Golf My Way and a natural, easier to cure into a Fade, Slice, only to be followed to even more desastrous effects by Jim McSway’s well meant but physical ability as well as cause and effect confusing X-Factor. Harvey Pennick might disagree with the first assessment though. Take this picture in tip 224, add a sway and you can see how a lot of middle aged single digit handicappers go about it today- yours truly included.


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