It’s not unlike one of my lessons

The number of times i have had interactions like this during lessons is immeasurable. First, I have to dispel misconceptions and incorrect assumptions. Then they end up proving the point all by themselves.

Thought you guys would find the interaction interesting in this thread. The Jon Robert guy responds in almost as many threads a I do and his responses are classic.

Watch the video of the Fowler analysis and it’s even funnier.

LINK to thread




  1. Chad Abbs

    When did they add a Second Baseman to golf? Sure hope I don’t ground into any double bogeys.

    • Mike Divot

      I thought I was slicing everything; it turns out I’m fouling off to avoid a strikeout.

  2. James

    Oh…that’s the secret!! I need to stop my shoulders in the down swing! So I guess that means stop rotating and let your hands and arms whip on through the down swing?

  3. CSchneeweiss

    This guy’s posts on people’s swings are something else. The one where he talks about choosing a different grip based on whether you want distance or accuracy is just ridiculous. He’s contributing heavily to the convolution of golf instruction. Guy’s out of his mind.

  4. Mike Divot

    Just to clear up the misconception …

    “Jon Robert” is not a person. It is a computer program originally devised to generate the “tips” section for Golf Online and Golf Digest.

    But one day in their computer room, Peter Kostis slipped over and caused an electrical fire and “Jon Robert” escaped out to the internet.

    These posts it makes … it’s what it does. It’s ALL it does.

    Just remember: It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear.

  5. woody

    Whew, thanks for the other replies, guys. The video was listed at 5 minutes, and I couldn’t get halfway. I’m glad it’s not just me.

    Personally, I think Fowler isn’t restricting his hip-turn because there’s no such thing as hip-turn in his mind. Dollars-to-donuts, he’s not thinking anything remotely like “I want to restrict my hip-turn,” or “I want to turn my hips Xº,” or anything whatever to do with hips.

  6. meateater

    Fowler is not a good model in any case. He has an unusual move where he drops his arms in the downswing, which puts him very flat, then he kind of swings sround his body. Sometimes talent is more important than perfect mechanics, but why copy someone whose swing requires talent you don’t have. Which, as I recall, was pretty much Monte’s point to the guy.


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