In the golf swing, the opposite of bad….is not good.

The people who taught/teach hip turn restriction should be flogged in the public square.

There is really no such thing as too much hip rotation, just incorrect hip rotation. Some people don’t have the flexibility to have much separation and this makes things worse…all arm swing city when try to get “X-factor.”

That is the problem with golf instruction, it’s all about teaching the opposite of bad. Hold the lag, low and slow, swing to right field and restrict hip turn are not good things. They are just the opposite of casting, lifting and not turning, over the top and over rotating to the inside.

You don’t fix over rotation by restricting hip turn. Over rotation is a result of poor setup, turning too flat, tilting toward the target, or some combination of those three things. You fix those things, you don’t tell the person to restrict.

You don’t fix loss of lag by holding it, going wide to narrow or ringing the bell, you fix it by ridding yourself of arm over run and upper body movement toward the target.

…and the list goes on.

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  1. eric

    Amen Montey!
    I have over rotation on my backswing . Guess the reason!
    My left leg is inch shorter than my right leg and my upper body tilts towards the target at setup.
    Been trying to force my left hip to the left at setup to get behind the ball at setup .. Just feels really funny since Ive been doing it wrong all these years.

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  2. Tom McNamara

    I remember you telling me that golf is counterintuitive. Maybe they just went the other direction with the x-factor?! I know for over rotation, just about every article in magazines tell you to gain more yards, you need to turn more in the back swing. If they print it enough, it must be true!
    On the counterintuitive point, I laughed when I finally had a way to read my swing speed and realized that my nice fluid swing is 108 mph and when I really go after it and swing hard, my swing speed is 103!
    Silly ass game!
    Tom

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  3. birly-shirly

    Monte – can you talk about the difference between what you mean by restricting hip turn (bad) and the “no turn backswing” (good) that you talk about here – http://montescheinblum.com/blog/2013/10/21/the-no-turn-cast-swing/

    Is it just the difference between actively restricting the turn and making no conscious effort to turn?

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    • Monte Scheinblum

      You are correct.

      It’s ironic how the body works. You actively try o restrict turn and it causes extra arm swing. You make no effort to turn and you reduce arm swing.

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  4. Dogballz

    How does one rid themselves of upper body movement towards target?

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    • Monte Scheinblum

      You make an effort on every swing to keep the upper body back and at some point, it’s gone,

      It’s much like shortening the swing, you don’t see immediate results, as it takes a while to make that change.

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      • Eric Brown

        Monte why does it feel more comfortable to swing flat and make a bad shoulder turn? You also said most amateurs turn there shoulders incorrectly as well..
        Ive been swinging flat and laid off since i started and going to work on getting the club vertical this week ,, Any tips?

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    • Michael Schmidt

      The one thing that has started to grove a swing with no reverse pivot(upper body leaning towards target) and no goat humping is to practice at the range with my feet together. It’s the only way I practice now. I can’t lean towards target or I fall. The goat humping has stopped because I had to learn to use my body rotation and maintain spinal tilt AWAY from the target or the swing becomes all arms and the misses sporadic. It’s wonderful for tempo too! It’s helped massively with ingraining fundamentals.

      I’ve actually incorporated this into my pre shot routine. After selecting my club I stand behind ball and take two smooth practice swings with my feet together. Then I step in and swing.

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  5. Eric Brown

    Monte any idea what causes the head to go out toward the ball on the back swing ?

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    • Monte Scheinblum

      Low and slow/inside backswing.

      The head goes out to maintain balance,

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